END TIMES PROPHCEY TODAY -NORMASEDER

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                                          THE OLIVET DISCOURSE
 
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THIS TELL US THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION BEGAN WHEN THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED and THE JEWS WERE
TAKEN CAPTIVE INTO THE NATIONS.  IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT JESUS WAS SAYING.

These three accounts are concerning the same discourse by Jesus spoken on the same day and time.

Matthew, Mark and Luke were not there to hear Jesus teaching They wrote later and accordingly to the audiance that would be reading it. This is known because in the Mark account at the end of chapter 12 it tells of Jesus's teaching concerning the poor widow woman giving her last penny, and Luke begins with the same event about the poor widow woman. From the temple they then journied up the Mount of Olives and when they were able to speak to Jesus privately  they asked Him about what He had said about the destruction of the temple.

Mat 24:1 Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him.
Mar 13:1 As He was going out of the temple, one of His disciples *said to Him, "Teacher, behold what wonderful stones and what
wonderful buildings!"
Luk
21:5 And while some were talking about the temple, that it was adorned with beautiful stones and votive gifts, He said,
 
Mat 24:2 And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."
Mar 13:2 And Jesus said to him, "Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left upon another which will not be torn down."
Luk 21:6 "{As for} these things which you are looking at, the days will come in which there will not be left one stone upon another which will not be torn down."
 
WOW! What beautiful buildings were they speaking of? Of course it was Herod's Temple which they were looking at. The beautiful white stones he used to build the temple and outer buildings. 
This is our first clue that we might not be understanding this discourse.Jesus was being specific. "Those buildings you are looking at.  Not one stone will be left upon another." He is not speaking of some future temple in our time that will be destroyed. 

Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Mar
13:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew were questioning Him privately, :4 "Tell us, when will these things be, and what {will be} the sign when all these things are going to be fulfilled?"
Luk 21:7 They questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, when therefore will these things happen? And what {will be} the sign when these things are about to take place?"


 They asked when Herod's temple would be destroyed,  and they also asked what signs to look for concerning the coming of the end of the age and the sign of His coming... believing the two events were to happen close together.  Jesus began by  partially answering their second question, "what will be the signs of your coming."

These are signs we will look for in our generation as the end nears.

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mar 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
Luk 21:8a And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived:

Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mar 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
Luk 21:8b And He said, "See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, 'I am {He,}' and, 'The time is near.' Do not go after them.

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mar 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for [such things] must needs be; but the end [shall] not [be] yet.
Luk 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end [is] not by and by.

Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mar 13:8a For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles:
Luk 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Mat 24:8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.
Mar 13:8b these [are] the beginnings of sorrows.
Luk
21:12 But before all these,

When Luke says "But before all these" he is telling us that these things Jesus said first would not happen first, but would take place later in the time-line after the abomination of Desolation. They are the beginning of the sorrows leading to the end of the age. Luke understanding that the beginning of sorrows are the calamities that precede the final days, said "But before these".
We can see the false christs (messiahs) and the wars ond rumors of wars and earthquakes and famines happening in this world now and have been increasing in intensity steadily for over a decade as we near the end of the age.
NOTE: This is what "sorrows" is referring to according to the Blue Letter Bible on line:
2) intolerable anguish, in reference to the dire calamities precede the advent of the Messiah.
So you need to mentally insert these birth pangs as being later in the time line, closer to His return.

Some believe that ALL of Matt 24 is going to take place in the last 7 years of this age, but the destruction of the temple already happened in 70 AD exacltly as Jesus described.  The reason the Romans took the temple and all the buildings down stone by stone was to retreve the gold that had melted and run into the cracks between and under the stones.
 Their questions were in response to Jesus' prophecy about the temple's destruction, not one stone upon another,  and the apostles want to know when this destrucrution of the temple and buildings they had been looking at was going to happen.   Since they were Jews we can only imagine how this prophecy must have affected them. Their beloved Temple was going to be utterly destroyed. Of course they are going to ask more. "Tell us of these things?"
So Jesus will lead up slowly to the answer they seek about the Temple destruction because even though the disciples believe this is all going to happen within their generation, even the end of the age, we know only the destruction of the Temple will happen in their generation.
And  we know that the events of their second question, "when will be the end of the age and your coming?",  won't take place for almost two thousand years. They however tie the destruction of the Temple to the end of the age and Jesus' coming as King.
The Temple being destroyed in the manner of "not one stone left upon another" took place in 70 AD so Jesus starts the time-line before that time. He begins by telling the disciples what will happen to them very shortly.
(Again take note that Luke is telling of the same events in the same order as the other two writers.)

Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
Mar 13:9 "But be on your guard; for they will deliver you to {the} courts, and you will be flogged in {the} synagogues, and you will stand before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them.
Luk 21:12 "But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name's sake.

Mar 13:10 "The gospel must first be preached to all the nations.
Luk 21:13 "It will lead to an opportunity for your testimony.(:14) "So make up your minds not to prepare beforehand to defend yourselves; (:15) for I will give you utterance and wisdom which none of your opponents will be able to resist or refute.
Matthew says this at the end of this section of events that take place before 70 AD.

Mat 24:10 "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.
Mar 13:12 "Brother will betray brother to death, and a father {his} child; and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death.
Luk 21:16 "But you will be betrayed even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and they will put {some} of you to death,

Mat 24:11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. (:12)"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. (:13)"But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
Mar 13:13 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
Luk 21:17 and you will be hated by all because of My name.(:18) "Yet not a hair of your head will perish. (:19)"By your endurance you will gain your lives.

Mat 24:14 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

This is the apostasy that will happen among the Jews before the abomination will stand in the Holy Place.
In the next section, we read of the Abomination of Desolation and the destruction of the Temple that Jesus told them about.
Now we are getting down to the nitty gritty. This is where the saying "rightly dividing the word" comes into play. It isn't always easy to do this, especially when the discourse is so long and one must consider three different accounts of the discourse to discover the truth of it.But when we do it in-depth like this, then the scripture itself reveals the truth. The most important part of rightly
dividing the scripture is to keep it in the context it was written in.
So, up to this point Jesus has not answered the first question that the disciples asked:

Luk 21:7.."Teacher, when therefore will these things happen? But now He does.

Mat 24:15 "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing
in the holy place (let the reader understand),
Mar 13:14a "But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where it should not be (let the reader understand),
Luk 21:20 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her *desolation is near.

****Notice this does not talk of the polluting of the Holy City as in Dan 11:31 but of the desolation told of in Dan 9:26. The Abomination of desolation happened in 70 AD with the complete desolation of the Temple.

Mat 24:16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.
Mar 13:14b then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.
Luk 21:21a "Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains,

Mat 24:17 "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. (:18) "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak.
Mar 13:15 "The one who is on the housetop must not go down, or go in to get anything out of his house; (:16) and the one who is in the field must not turn back to get his coat.
Luk 21:21b and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; (:22) because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.
The days of the destruction of City and Temple.

Mat 24:19 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! (:20) "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.
Mar 13:17 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! (:18) "But pray that it may not happen in the winter.
Luk 21:23a "Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days;

So far these have all been the same,  so believe that Luke is speaking of the same time-line of events in these next verses also.

Mat 24:21 "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
Mar 13:19 "For those days will be a {time of} tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
Luk 21:23b for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; (:24) and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

 Luke has just made it VERY clear that the great tribulation begins when Jerusalem falls because that is when the Jews were carried into the nations,  and also lets the reader  know that this tribulation will not end until the time of the Gentile is complete! Now you understand what the Great Tribulation is. It is the time of the Jews in the nations.

But it sounds like Luke was talking about some other time in history because he says to watch for when the city is encompassed and doesn't tell about the abomination standing where it ought not like the other two apostles did.   Both happened.  History tells us that the Zealots, that the Romans were chasing down, fled to Jerusalem and begged to be let in.  General Vespersian was at their heels. He surrounded Jerusalem with his armies. Inside Jerusalem the Zealots took the temple and set up the abomination which was a false priest in the temple.  But then for some reason the general withdrew his armies. This gave all that would heed Jesus warning to flea out of the
city.  Within the month Titus arrived with his armies and destroyed not only the temple but also the Holy City and killed over a million Jews and carried the rest of the population of  Jerusalem captive into the nations.  See Josephus "The Jewish Wars" for this history.

Mat 24:22 "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
Mar 13:20 "Unless the Lord had shortened {those} days, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

I believe that this great tribulation on the Jews, where they would be in excile, which lasted longer than any other excile in their history, came to an end in 1967 When the Jews captured and entered back into Jerusalem.  Six million Jews had died at the hand of Hitler and five million Christians along with them.  God promised to cut short this time of tribulation.
Now we must go back and look at Daniel to see more about these days of vengeance Luke spoke of, and what Jesus said would happen to the Temple (not one stone left upon another) during the time of vengeance.
Daniel 9:26 tells us that a prince will come and his people will destroy not only the temple/sanctuary to a complete destruction, but also the city of Jerusalem.
Don't look back to Daniel 11:31 because those verses are not about total destruction as in "Not one stone will remain upon another", but tells of a desecration of the Holy fortress, a pollution of the Holy City.
NOTE: History tells us that Titus came and his people totally destroyed the Temple/sanctuary and the Holy City to a complete destruction.
To quote Luke....Luk 21:22 because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled. At this point the first question "Teacher, when therefore will these things happen?"asked by the disciples, concerning the destruction of the Temple, has been answered......but Jesus, knowing that the second question, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"  would be a later time. The disciples believed and taught that
this destruction would bring on the end of the age.
The days of sorrow that Jesus began the discourse with, will begin the end of days for us. They are the birth pangs of
the end of the age.

This is where the text concerning the 'beginning of Sorrows' fits into the time-line of events.
Mat 24:23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There {He is,}' do not believe {him.} (:24) "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (:25) "Behold, I have told you in advance.
Mar 13:21 "And then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ'; or, 'Behold, {He is} there'; do not believe {him;} (:22) for false Christs and false prophets will arise, and will show signs and wonders, in order to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
Mar 13:23 "But take heed; behold, I have told you everything in advance.
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"behold, I have told you beforehand".  In Greek it is idouproereo humin
idou (look or see), proereo (I have said this previously) humin ([to] you.)
proereo {pro-er-eh'-o}
1) to say before a) to say in what precedes, to say above
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In other words, I have told you about this part already. He told of the false Christ and everything else that has to do with the beginning of sorrows when He first began the discourse. Remember, Luke said "But before these things", meaning these other things will come first and then the 'beginning of sorrows' (birth pangs) will take place................... before the end of the age and My return.
So let's look at what Mark wrote about the days of the beginning of sorrows, the birth pangs ushering in the end of this age.

     Mar 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you: (:6) For many shall come in my name,
     saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many. (:7) And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for [such
     things] must needs be; but the end [shall] not [be] yet.
     (:8) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be
     famines and troubles: these [are] the beginnings of sorrows.
The beginning of sorrows are the calamities that take place before the Messiah returns. They are the signs of the times we are to
look for to know the time is near.
He goes on to say that we are not to look in the desert or the upper room for Him, but to the sky where we will see Him returning
on the clouds to gather the elect (believers).
Mat 24:27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
(:28) "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather."
Note: In another part of Luke he says the apostels asked where Lord? meaning where should we gather so the
angels can find us.  Jesus answers  Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.  In other words the angels will find
you where ever you are.     The eagle/vulture is symbolic of the angels that will do the gathering. This is the day of
the resurrection of the dead and the rapture (catching up) of the living IN CHRIST.

Mat 24:29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those daysTHE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE
ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Mar 13:24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS
LIGHT, (:25) AND THE STARS WILL BE FALLING from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken.
Luk 21:25 "There will be SIGNS IN THE MOON AND THE STARS, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the
roaring of the sea and the waves, (:26) men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for
the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
(Note: Also see Revelation 8, the 6th seal, for this same event)
 
immediately after the tribulation of   Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be
famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.  (This is world War III, also seen in the 4th seal of REV.  1/4 of nations of
the world will be involved in it. and the rider Death will use war,  famine and desease, which war causes, and the beasts of the earth (
these are the beast seen in Rve 13) to kill.   These signs that follow are caused by Neclear weapons going off in the middle east.  The sun
and moon are darkened by the thick debries in the air. The sun is like slack cloth nd yet the moon is only red, which means by night fall
their is less debris. The mountains shake out of there place like an earthquake. The stars appear to be falling from the sky but I think
these are acutually bombs of war.
 
Mat 24:30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see
the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Mar 13:26 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Luk 21:27 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the
four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
Mar 13:27 "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the
earth to the farthest end of heaven.
Luk 21:28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."
Luke had talked of the time of the end and Jesus's return in Chapter 17.
Luk 17:22 And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will
not see it. (:23) "They will say to you, 'Look there! Look here!' Do not go away, and do not run after {them.}
Luk 17:24 "For just like the lightning, when it flashes out of one part of the sky, shines to the other part of the sky, so will the Son of
Man be in His day.
Luk 17:25 "But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
Luk 17:26 "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
Luk 17:27 they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered
the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
Luk 17:28 "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling,
they were planting, they were building;
Luk 17:29 but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
Luk 17:30 "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.
Luk 17:31 "On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and
likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back.
Luk 17:32 "Remember Lot's wife.
Luk 17:33 "Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses {his life} will preserve it.
Luk 17:34 "I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Luk 17:35 "There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Luk 17:36 ["Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left."]
Luk 17:37 And answering they *said to Him, "Where, Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body {is,} there also the vultures will be
gathered."
This is speaking of the resurrection of the dead and the rapture of the living.

God bless